No other advertisement is allowed, even cooking related (e.g., Pampered Chef, Cutco, etc). If you wish to promote blogs or YouTube channels, please do so only in the weekly "YouTube/Content Round-Up!" thread, stickied at the top of the sub. No blog/YouTube channel spamming or advertisements of any kind. Not all jokes are memes! No trolling, either. We love to see your food, but we also want to try it if we wish to. Include plain text recipes for any food that you post, either in the post or in a comment. Content about or written/developed by AI such as ChatGPT will be removed as well. If the topic is questionable, then it most likely isn't OK to post. It still sounds like it might be a lot of smoke and mirrors.All posts must be cooking related. Gene editing? Doubt it, but If so have they grown those plants out? Not likely in either case in the 8 to 9 years they have been in the US. Anything coming from anything other than seed (sexual reproduction) is just a clone of a plant that already exists. Who is doing the harvesting in the two to three week window you have to harvest shoots? How many man-hours would be required to harvest the shoots? How many lbs/kg of shoots would you need to harvest in the first few years of production to start to pay off your initial cost outlay? Do they contractually agree to a guaranteed price per lb/kg of harvest? If so how many years do they guarantee buyback? Are there minimum requirements for the amount of shoots you have to produce per season? Who is responsible and paying for transporting the shoots to the processor? Who is processing the shoots? Is there infrastructure in place to process all these shoots? Crop insurance? Plant replacement? There are so many questions you should be asking yourself and them before committing to anything.Īs for their patented strain, unless they have selected a new cultivar that they grew from seed, and grew it out to maturity in the environment they are promoting too, I would be extremely skeptical of any claims they make about that. There are others in Florida that are bringing bamboo at scale to market that have existing established relationships within the citrus community to help farmers who have been affected by citrus greening. Also know they are not the only players in this market. I think there is potential for better short-term turnaround with asper than there is for Moso in general. I think they did well in pivoting to Dendrocalamus asper as an option for Florida growers. It is a risk, as any small farm venture is where you are laying out your capital and committing your land. I think so far it is too early to tell how it all plays out. Over the ensuing years, I have kept up tangentially with OnlyMoso, talking to individuals who have either signed up or others that know people that have signed up. There was a consensus in the ABS bamboo community at that time, that they were selling a set of unrealistic expectations that had the potential to put people at risk of serious financial harm, and also set back any progress made thus far in promoting bamboo as a viable agricultural product in the US. The takeaway from that meeting was that they were naive at best at what they were promoting. One of our members, who has written a few books and articles on growing and farming bamboo, met with them when they first set up shop in Florida. When they first were reaching out to growers, there was a lot of interest in American Bamboo Society circles because their goals appeared to align with ABS goals.
Realistically, in my opinion, an optimistic turnaround time for Moso is a minimum of 10-12 years under near-perfect production conditions using well-established, rhizome dense stock. Back in 2014 or 15 when I and several other bamboo nurseries/people were approached by them, they were promoting a turnaround time of 3-5 years on harvestable Moso. I do not know what their current timeline is for Moso.
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